Monday, 23 January 2017

Why the "francophones" are not supporting the movement!

Yesterday, Kinnaka's Blog posted an succinct editorial piece, where the general public was asked: How we could be involved in changing the course of this process ; What we did wrong or could do right to change the fate of this struggle; What do we foresee will happen in the days/months ahead?

We had a fair share of emails, calls and comments pertaining to our questions on the on going strike in the English-speaking regions of Cameroon.  Two anonymous comments stood out and have created room for debate! 

Comment one
A whole lot of people are asking why the "francophones" are not supporting the movement. The answer is simple. The so called consortium is the problem. They labelled it as an "anglophone" problem which in itself is divisive. Do we have such a problem. YES. But is it the main problem? NO.
If the consortium called for leadership changes and labelled it as such, which is the main problem. There are regions like the north still grieved by the exile of the corpse of President Ahidjo who would support the movement.

In my humble opinion, the right war is being faught for the wrong reasons. A true leader seeks to unite and not divide.
Finally, the call for seccession is the most stupid of all. Either the the consortium is counting on the fact that the populus is misinformed/uninformed or the are themselves mis/uninformed. First, there is no precedence set for seccession in recent history. Sudan and south Sudan are perfect examples. Is south Sudan better off today? NO. In region plagued by the crisis of terrorism, the consortium as well as the government should know that hate speech and and anger are the perfect breathing ground for terrorist recruitment.

San Tzu once said "The opportunity of protecting ourselves from defeat lies in our own hands but the opportunity to defeat the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. A good leader knows when to retreat and when to attack. For it is better to retreat and stage a comeback than to let the taste of war lead one to a sour defeat"


I rest my case....
Comment two was a response to this comment
Comment: Is it this girl I heard accused Mark Bareta on a PUBLIC FACEBOOK post?!
Well madam you don't necessarily need to expose your jealousy in the open like that...
Mark is fighting a noble cause that's why he got a number of followers you will never get in 10 years of your entire blogging career. You want more followers? Then fight too for a noble cause. Do like Mark Bareta.
Some of you are unworthy Cameroonians.You hypocrite and traitor.
Let me notice you speak Ill of West Cameroon again for whatever reason.
You strip naked for money but you will never strip naked to save people's lives. You neither have a child nor a sister so I understand your stupidity.Or maybe you are just the selfish breed.
Traitor. Is it now you want to start posting or reacting to the anglophone crisis?
We do not need you. I repeat that we do not need you.
Response
You my friend are a disgrace to human values. Listen, Mark Bareta should not sit in the comfort of his house in America and promote bigotry.If you and him believe that asking woment to protest naked is the right thing to do, then please you and him should take your mothers, wives/girlfriends,daughters...etc and make them to start protesting naked. I promise you the others will join. If they dont then dont blame yourself.
If in all of this, we cant uphold the dignity of our mothers and younger sisters then what are we fighting for? By the time the movement is over, we will have the lost all our dignity. What is a nation without its pride?

Kiki never said she against the struggle but there are definitely many ways to fight a war. In case you are not aware, the art of war by san tzu will be a good piece to start reading.

Even in America n Europe where women marchs are going on against Trump, no one has asked them to walk naked.

So if u think that doing so is right, then you are the problem and proof why we are headed in the wrong direction with this struggle. 
By the way, why don't you ask all men to go protest naked to? Aren't they part of the struggle? 
Kinnaka's blog hereby calls on everyone affected by this strike to emplore reason and not emotions! We can never effectively changed history with one narrative! Speak up! We are all in this together! #NoToMarginalisation 

37 comments:

  1. The first response is exactly why we are where we are insulting Kiki.Too much emotions instead of reason. Is there an Anglohone problem definitely yes. Cameroon as a whole has a problem. We have a dictator 34 years and counting. We should unite. The francophones have a point though. Cos I don't support seccession either. But if they have not given us their support how do we know they are with us. Between what stops those in the Northern regions to rise up.

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    1. The first comment is from those black legs who are misleading people. At what time and at what moment did the consortium mention seccession? Quote.
      Please you guys should stop playing around. Take your positions. Who needs support from the francophones and to do what with? Pple who deem us as second class citizens in our country. I worked with them and I spent time with them, they are mean.

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    2. The francophone are not supporting this movement because they know they have a lot to lose from us if we give part but frankly majority of the francophone s don't even know why their brothers of the English part of the country are striking cause when you get the talk on social media like Africa media and Vision4 then you understand what i mean

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  2. Is this post a bid to prove you was right or explaining the problem. As for that first point. Yes the expression Anglophone problem creates division and is in itself hostile to the francophone. But Paul Biya has been a problem throughout the history of Cameroon. Enough little uprisings have been existing some to challenge the very rule of The dictator himself, yet nothing ever materialised. Francophones never joined a single cause. Consequently the uprisings were shortlived. Never has a francophone community challenged the methods of the regime in any demonstration of any sort. They mostly fight for job discrimination or may be months without salaries being paid like the recent demonstration in yde against a certain transport agency. Eseka accident which demonstrated the ineffectiveness and mediocrity of the regime. With all the deaths and majority of victims being francophones as well the complete abandonment of investigations into the incident, no francophones have stood up. It is evident they are too loyal and they cannot patiently fight for a cause till the last. Why is this so?This can be due to various reasons. For example the favouritism they enjoy gives them hope for the future. So why should they challenge or join a challenge. They have culturally become very very loyal to the government. Also the fact that there is a common problem in Biya, dont mean there is no anglophone problem and dont mean we have no right to fight of for the anglophone good. Look Biya is not even a problem to everybody. Some people love Biya and always stick to the slogan " the devil u know is better than d angel you dont know". But marginalisation is a problem to the whole anglophone community. If people stand to fight against biya are u certain of the turn up? What of those loyal to him?
    Those comfortable in white collar offices, those who were favoured in institutional national exams et cetera. Us the anglophones living in a country void of hopes we have finally had the spirit to rise up. The unity is the main reason it has lasted long. Yes in the end we will have to overthrow the dictator. But for now the unity is key. N we will fight for our cause. We cant be waiting for the francophones. Now we have to find our way.

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    1. In February 2008, there was an upheaaval against the modification of the Constitution by the Yaoundé regime. People were killed in Other Regions of the country, not in the Anglophones Regions. Stop this MANIPULATION please! There's no problem between French-speaking Cameroonians and their fellow English-speaking citizens. Cameroon's problem is Bad Governance and contempt of the leaders of the country on the People both francophones and Anglophones

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    2. no manipulation. the person clearly pointed out that the is a common problem with the regime but the anglophone problem is as old as Biya himself. Secondly he/she clearly supported the fact that the anglophone problem causes division because it is hostile to the francophones. For me i think the person just said that because the francos have refused to join or not yet joined the fight dont mean they would not fight. They will eventually join but the anglos cannot wait when such passion for freedom is like none before. Personally i feel along the way they shall join. for now, the strike continues.

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    3. This problem is just like the first world war where every person could blame one another for the war cause there was an immediate cause to the war and also the remote cause which was building up since in their heart so its just like the english speeking Cameroonians now the immediate cause which was not handle well by the government gave rise to this secessionist and federalism plans so my fellow brothers there come a time in a when everybody accept the fault and look for solutions to better their lives just as the second world war thought us how the world seize to blame Germany and all accepted the blame but created a solution which has brought lasting peace to world till date so lets stop throwing blames now we have a round table to debate on with the government

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  3. OH YES! THE PROBLEM IS MUCH DEEPER THAN OUR EGOS ON SOCIAL MEDIA! I AM THE #THESILENTMAJORITY.

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  4. Point of correction mark is not in the USA and more to that session is the best option. We all know you are jealous because of the attention the public now have for mark bareta than must of you local celebrities in Cameroon. Are you not in London ? Lesbian bitch!,you are a disgrace juSt because he has more attentions that make you guys sick. When Mark was in ub he was still one of those who could resist and are their union tough as for you the only good news is how you became lesbian , with your short long self with long mop. I know you are doing all these to call for attentions. As for Queenie favour I know you always sicking to be the kb reader of the week but my sister your both ages you should be married rather than bringing useless topics in your blog head blogs

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    1. Questioning an individual's sexual preferences in the middle of a regional crises shows exactly why Biya is winning The level of pettiness is insufferable! I say this without bias, the current consortium interim-leaders are attracting bigotry and teenage emotions. Anyone in their right mind will never let the fate of a people be decided by that. Courage Kiki/Kinnaka blog. The silent majority is behind you.

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    2. Do you know why Biya is winning? Simply because instead of proposing viable solutions you spend your time questioning someone 's sexual orientation. If you have nothing to say, be quiet

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    3. Can somebody clearly tell me here who told him/her that biya is wining????
      biya and his gang has never won and will never win reason why out of panic they sign decisions every day to suit their indiscriminate arrests of legitimate men calling them illegitimate.
      tell me if not for frustration how do you turn after a couple days to arrest someone you negotiated with and even tried to bribe, because of his dignified refusal and you call him illegal?
      For the help of francophones we don't need them because they in their comfort that has been given them by the gang regime will do nothing buy dragging us behind. Look at issa who in a few years said biya is a monster, what is biya today according to him?Not a God?? It's ur nature.
      Talking about solidarity, during ezeka we all (including anglophones) the very anglophones you (not even biya calls biafra) were heat broken but in 2006 when students were killed indiscriminately by the poisonous regime no francophone shed his or her tears . People like kiki didn't write a single post.I don't have an issue with you though kiki even if you are seeking for notice but i think and suggest that before posting a thing, analyse it well.Try to go down into history then u will have an absolute analysis.
      Talking about secession, this consortium didn't in any case evoke secession. This is because we were in no legal way United.If you doubt inbox me i will explain to you.
      Finally it will interest you to know the southern cameroon people is the most peaceful people and if it go to this point it's because of biya and his regime's incompetency and vehement and continues illegal amaginalization of southern cameroonians which of cause is an act of ignorance if not how do you expect people to react when they are been referred to as extremists when they are fighting for their right?
      Due to short time i will end here and ask kiki and her group to read the historical existance of Southern cameroon before and after 1960 Because this her write up is like and act of ignorance or egoism.

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    4. all what will solve this our problem in Cameroon is if the government its self follow its own constitution of decentralization with this i tell you everyone will be at ease cause they have a constitution of decentralization but they practice a centralize system of government and this make people like the anglophones people go mad cause everything which needed to create jobs for them has been send to yaounde so what do u expect from them its war

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  5. We don't need the "francophone support" to express our grievances. Yes, the methods of expression could be different and it's a shame things turned out the way they did. However, Francophones don't bear the brunt of our plight. While being on good terms with them, we do not need their adherence to our movement.

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  6. ITS A DECOLINIZATION PROBLEM ON THE STATE OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS BY ANOTHER STATE OF PAUL BIYA CAMEROUN. TO FORCE HIM TO WITHDRAW ITS ILLEGAL MILITARY AND ADMINISTRATION

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  7. Bravo Kiki.... Bravo Bravo, for me right now, you guys need to work with each other no matter what, put away your fears, your pride and the population or whatever, we are in a fight and inside the fight i see a fight inside which means there is no fight to fight.... Kiki try to reach a problem solving point with Bareta or who so ever.... I appreciate your courage and keep the spirit.
    Hotep - Kiki
    Hotep - Bareta.

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  8. Firstly. Anglophones are not asking for leadership change. Anglophones have a problem which the leaders or people in government openly denied to the entire public to be a problem. I am not here to start listing the problem because if had interest in following these struggle or knowing what the people who have lost their lives or a jail for, then by now u would address this problem properly
    Secondly Mark never asked the women to go naked, the mark i know has great respect for women and women going naked in cameroon is a tradition, please do some research on our culture and if i can add more i would tell you that young girls in South Africa today still dances with their breast out as part of their tradition.
    Thirdly is good you called the struggle a war though i dont see it as a war.. which one will you prefer, i strip naked infront or you as a sign of my anger or that i pick up at axe or a cutlass against an armed police man who would only end up killing more of my children or brothers and sisters?
    Lastly Mark Bareta is not in the comfort of his home in USA, He is Belgium and spend more than 12hours of his time not checking out celebrity vibes or worthless and uneducative or productive vibes, but communicating with Cameroonians back home in search of information that would help the Anglophone struggle.. So please kiwi or what brand of polish you call yourself, we are tired of polishing our shoes with ur brilliant but fake and worthless blog.

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  9. I have discussed with some francophone, some my in-laws, who were not aware of the problems faced by anglophones. But most francophone become sympathizers to the struggle when it is explained. One francophone even asked me why we are not teaching these things in schools?
    Francophones are not even aware that some of our parents cannot get his pension because they cannot go to Yaounde and communicate in french.
    We also need to do our part to pass out information in french. unfortunately, the consortium only communicates in english, which prevents our francophone friends to comprehend.
    While "kinnaka blog" has brought up a great topic, only anglophone will respond as the francos will not even know what is going on. May be you create another post of the same topic in french. My point of view (using one side eye glass)

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  10. Kinnaka = Internet Tarzan
    Mark Bareta = Internet Robin Wood

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  11. Hahaha first of all let me brake down things here.go to limbe.the francophones have Jobs at your door steps.hahah.its an anglophone problem.they have no problem.if they have they will speak out. Look at the road to bda.its a shame.point of correction.Bareta did not ask women to go naked.u are less or uninformed about anglophone history and culture.those who say the francophones do not want to join because the consortium call it anglophone problem are hypocrite.u know why.its because he is an anglophone and if we get to federalism.francophones will loose 80% of their jobs.they don't want to.tjink out of the box.

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  12. Kiki I want to ask u a question since dese last days u n ur kind have suddenly become gender activists!! have u ever seen Takumbeng in action??? I guess no! Those who have seen will tell u how dey operate! Now can u tell a man to stop dancing juju or not to fulfill d commitments of a juju hse even though such commitments are mostly unethical??? No! Wen sometin happens in a village setting, jujus sometimes are released! Dats tradition n it's so respected probably Cuz it has to do with men. Now dat d female juju wants to carry out deir own activities bcos dey are in deep pain, deir way of doing it becomes questionable n shouldn't be tradition as its d case with the men! Is dat not a chauvinistic approach???? Do u know wen Takumbeng was initiated n how dis idea came abt??? May be ur mom wasn't even born by den n now u want to come n educate ppl on smthg u kno nothg abt! Back to anglophones n francophone: we do not need the francophones to join us!it's our problm not deirs! We don't mind if Paul biya stays in etoudi for life. By d way he's been der for 34 yrs so wat diff will it make if he leaves now??? No anglophone should pretend not to kno wat we are fighting for! We do not want d presidency of LRC! Dat is not even one of our interests! The nordists might not like d system but Issa tchiroma the National stooge is deir representative in d govt. Somehow dey are appeased. We are not n we won't unless we are given wat we want! God being our helper!!

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  13. Just trying to bring people into her blog instead of Facebook. Bringing people in here so she can make her money more as you read and comment. Why didn't she try it on Facebook. This post is simply to tease the struggle and make us look more like fools again. If she got personal issues with Mark, that's her issues becos she's still trying to paint him black right here... What a shame..

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  14. If u had mentioned or said what the consortium is demanding then I would have known u talking a point, but because u didn't, I can see u are jealouse of the work of mark barata, they said fFEDERATION,or u want to tell me that federation is not worth a course fighting for by Southern CCametoonians.?

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  15. When people think we are gauche,biafra all sort of names because we do things differently ,we don't need to be together ! There's a Cameroonian problem ,we Anglophones will fight for our selves for the French have never joined in the fight ,they come in their numbers to beat and kill the biafrans,anglofous.They can go to hell.If they don't want to join in the struggle .There's nothing good that can come from this union ,we have been drained right down to our dignity

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  16. I have just a few questions for Kiki. What is the intention behind this piece? B/c l do not sense the direction you want to take the reader to. Are you agaisnt the direction of the struggle or are you against the use of the Takenbuns.May be you did not read my comment on your last post. Check about pussy riots or women protesting naked. Even in south Africa it happened recently. As for the so called silent majority,l am sorry to say there is no silent majority. You are either for agaisnt. No sitting on the fence.

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  17. At no one point in time has the consortium called for a secession. I can't believe I don't want us to call it an anglophone problem. It is definitely an anglophone problem in particular and a Cameroonian problem as a whole. We have been marginalised more than we can take it. We don't have jobs, we can't pass concours, we have no roads. And then when we riot u say we are causing division? We are not obliged to join with others to cry foul. We have started and if any other region sees the need to rise that is left to them. Our methods may or may not be very convenient but rather than u criticising now and pointing fingers, join ur people and make them proud. Ur little stunt u pulled the other day has given u more followers I guess. Now is the time to make good use of ur new found popularity! Why can't u contact Bareta in person. Be an example. Two heads are better than one.

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  18. I don't understand this article. How does this tell us why francophones are not supportive?

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    1. i THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE HERE.

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  19. Please who owns this blog?
    I was expecting to read a logical and analytical piece with some form of evidence after research. Instead, the writer spent time beefing and boiling with jealousy.
    My advice to you is that you meet whoever you have differences with and sort out your problems. You will have a lot to learn from the interim Consortium.
    The only reasonable points I have read so far comes from the replies.

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  20. At least kiki's post has helped enlighten some of us who where less or uninformed about certain issues in this struggle. And I humbly respect n believe that's what a blog sometimes is meant for. I don't blame kiki. As least she said her mind. All those of wuna wey wuna call wunaselves silent listeners, abeg if grammer pass Wuna mek wuna try pidgin. Being silent makes no sense. Your opinion (positive or negetive) is a contribution to the struggle. Back to the tory. Women walking necked no start na today. Sorry kiki I thing now you know better. We should recall here that history hods that they were subjected to a system of governance call ASSIMILATION whereas we (anglophones) faced INDIREC RULE. So its clear our franko brothers will never join the struggle "shidown n receivam" na part of them unfortunately. So ma people whether you translate kiki yi post for French, spanish or german they don't give a damn. I'M SORRY THEY EXIST N HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED AN ANGLOPHONE PROBLEM. whatever weapon used in a fight definition for "fight" for dictionary na the same.
    The struggle continues.

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  21. Please Please we should table facts and not insults because it won't take us further. To begin with, so many points escaped panelists on this subjet on all of the debates I witnessed over the numerous TV stations in Cameroon. You see, most of these ministers and negociators are the real culprits of the degrading situation of negociations on this Anglophone problem. They have been trained to bow to the almighty Biya who has lost oeprational and bearings control. Let us creoss examine the most recent flop.Cameroon is a democartic Country, right? Why should the Head of State promulgate the creation of such an important and sensitive issue without consulting the National Assembly and the Senate? Let me make clear here that the Head of State is there because he is elected but does not own the people. He can therefore not take decisions single handedly to do whatever thing he likes otherwise we are slumbering back to the colonial masters age which is not possibe in the 21st century.

    Secondly, whoever that wrote the end of year's speech for the Head of State to read with so much pride should pick up his bags and start to seek protection against the wrath of his Almighty Biya. Upon all of the grand projects realised, was the Extreme North, The North, West, littoral, north west and south west mentioned???? Kribi ports tha was prefered to Limbe which could have been long operational by now and yeilding income and services to the marginalized part of the country thus creating job opportunities in all of the different specialities of Labour to employ our graduates, technicians and even the unscholarised Cameroonians. Lom Pangar was previlegded to Mentchum Falls because they are too used to bribery and corruption. They Feared letting any of these geant projects to be carried out in our part of the country for fear of the balance sheet results enormous disparity. Transparency and accountability which might make the Head of State change his mind about responsabilizing Francophoens most who have never seen the four walls of universities in France? For your memory, just see what is happening with Camerco - the number of fake diplomes said to have been obtained by specialist so as to earn huge sums of money throughout their life time?

    I don't know what pushed the Head of State to create the Senate when his troubles with the lower chambers have not been solved. Salaries that were promised are not forth coming to the senators. They do not have a building of their own.

    Lastly, The Governors and Legion Commanders , who sat quietly infront of their televisions witnessing the rapings, torturings and arbitral arrestations of unarmed children and people who are merely making use of their democratic rights should be tried in a marshal court or be sighted as well alongside at the International Court of Justice at la Hague for not assisting endangered people. So they are there to implement orders from the government and cannot take our grieviances upward? Be it even to make an announcement that they are shocked by such behaviour of our armed forces whose rule is to protect citizens and their belongings including external aggression of our territory: that those that have perpetrated such actions would be held responsible and tried? No! therefore they are of no use in our provinces. Yesterday they were happy receiving food and giftd from our people and to-day they treat us as ennemies. How do you feel sirs? The more reason why we should encourage basic education in the commonest manner of expression to let the mass clearly understand what to cast a vote means. Governors have to be voted from the regions they intend to govern. They should have their ouw ministers with a budget and a development plan for their provinces.They should understand the people's culture and proirities. When they fail to deliver promises you can walk ,up boldly and claim back your power of antorney you gave him. If a certain number is attained, SACK Him

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  22. Two systems side by side or apart for Cameroon - period . You can't mix oil and water.

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  23. Nobi Kiki write that at all na some man weh dem di call sey GUY THOMAS, over sabi man with so much big grammar for mob. ei di assist Kiki for her blog. ei don go underground after ei stop for di disguise and post and eventually fall sick. Guy Thomas we sabi u study Afican Literature/History but nobi for this matter you go come rest ur case because you no get no case. oversabi!!!

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    1. This is sad. How have you contributed to the case on ground.

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  24. Ms Bandy you said you will censor comments. Seriously why leave a serious topic like this to the hands of anonymous who only insult without reason. Please if you need help atleast employ someone to moderate comments. If people so want to contribute let them creat blog Ids.Am disapoointed. My husband loves the blog. But cant comment cos follow up comments will insult. I guess you have grown already. Remove this insultive comments and the right people will come here.

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  25. Kiki I once followed an interview you granted one social media outlet and you talked of doing micro-biology ?? That's a scientific background but back in those days in SAC Nso history is taught to science students up to form five and I believe you should from those days have known already that the ''Union'' was a farce . So the anglophone problem is as old as since East and West Cameroon came together.....maybe if you continued your history studies to the amphitheatres you'll have understood from Cameroon's few honest intellectuals that the Union was not working,has never worked and present state of affairs show that it'll never work.
    As to why the francophones are not supporting the struggle,I would borrow the words you used on a sister post to label us who admire Mark ''they are just gullible and ignorant'' and fall easily to government propaganda that we want a seccesion. That government tag on anglophones is going places and that's why they will never support us.
    Let me ask you this question....do you know the southwest alone contributes 45% to government income ???

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  26. In 1984
    That country was one
    German (kamerun)
    1917
    Cameroon one and very indicible

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